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Frequently Asked Questions

Find more answers on Water4Gas' new KNOWLEDGE BASE
  1. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
    An overview for very busy people.

  2. TECHNICAL
    1. If it's so good, why haven't I heard about it?
    2. How can I know if this is not a scam or hoax? Can I see a demo in my city?
    3. Demo of a real  Water-Hybrid Car  in Los Angeles!
    4. Can you tell me more about the technology?
    5. What about freezing cold weather?
    6. Would it still run my engine if I ran out of fuel?
    7. What further modifications would I have to make to run my car completely on water?
    8. Is this good for diesel?
    9. I heard that hydrogen burns very hot and can cause damage to engines with aluminum heads. Is this a possibility?
    10. Can you tell me exactly how much I can save?
    11. Is this technology dangerous?
    12. Isn't it dangerous to use glass jars?
    13. Will this technology fit my car?
    14. Typically how far will one quart of water go before you change the water?
    15. Can you expand you system to using 2 quart containers with water? Will it hurt the system?
    16. The steel spirals in the water - are they easily purchased locally?
    17. Is this technology fit for welding?
    18. Is this technology fit for generators? Scooters?
    19. What's the difference between HHO (Brown's Gas/Hydroxy) and Hydrogen?
    20. Is this technology fit for tractors and farm equipment? Is it any good for boats?

  3. INSTALLATION
    1. Where can I find somebody to install this system for me?
    2. How do I install this system in my vehicle, model xxxxxx?

  4. BILLING/DELIVERY
    1. Where are my books? When will I receive my copy?
    2. I Cannot order books from your web site!
    3. I lost the download page
    4. Can I get my money back?

  5. COSTS & ORDERING SYSTEMS
    1. I am interested in buying the whole system, so that I can get it installed in my car.
    2. How much do the system parts cost?
    3. How much should it cost to install?
    4. Do you have a site to order some items from if a person can't find them locally?
    5. Where is my Membership Kit? Is the kit part of the initial payment?


Executive Summary

Use this to provide busy people with a quick overview of Water4Gas technology, goals and business strategy:

WATER4GAS - EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Water4Gas is a technology based on splitting water on board a vehicle, and using the resulting gases not to drive the vehicle - but only to boost the efficiency of its combustion.

It is a Do-It-Yourself technology, specifically designed for beginners with no special tools and very limited budgets. A working system can be built at home with basic hand tools for $20-$100, installed in minutes and removed in seconds.

No modifications to the engine, computer or fuel injection systems, so any backyard mechanic can install it easily.

The technology is age old, over 91 years. All we've done is raise it from the dead and develop a simple structure based on low cost hardware. Although there is a myriad of hydrogen generating designs out there, ours is the simplest and also the safest for the beginner. The electrolyzer, bubbler and water reservoir have all been combined into one super-simple device.

Another advantage is the employment of coiled/spiraled electrode WIRES - rather than flat plates or spiraled plates. The magnetic vortex created by the coil assists water splitting, so we don't need as much power from the car's electrical system, thus simplifying the system even further and lowering its cost.

Three major factors work together to cause water splitting: direct current flowing through the electrode wires to the water, the magnetic vortex created by the shape of the electrodes, and the vacuum provided by the engine itself.

The effects of this technology is lowered emissions and improved mileage, simply due to a MORE COMPLETE COMBUSTION. Today's internal combustion engines suffer from poor efficiency of 20%-25%, as any mechanic will tell you; 75%-80% of the gasoline, instead of being converted to forward motion, is instead converted to pollution and carbon deposits (unburned fuel), as well as heat (global warming), vibration and noise (knocking/pinging).

THE MAIN PROBLEM IS OVERSIZED FUEL DROPLETS IN THE MIXTURE. The Hydrogen, being such a small particle, hits a droplet, cuts it into smaller droplets and attaches itself to the smaller droplets. Now the finer, hydrogen-enhanced mixture, is capable of burning more thoroughly.

On top of improved performance, the engine steam-cleans itself every day, and the resulting effect is smoother and quieter operation. One of our staff was shocked when she checked her engine oil and was sure that her oil ran totally out. Actually what happened was that while she was expecting dark brown, dirty oil, the oil was actually so transparent that she could not see it on the dip stick. Her 20-year-old car is as smooth now (with our device on) as it was when she bought it 17 years ago.

Another lady "complained" that she could not hear the engine running...but to her surprise the car was still moving along.

Our technology is not capable of running a car on water alone. Our aim is not to replace gasoline but to enhance it - and open the door and the mind to the possibilities of waterfuel technology. With correct fine tuning we can double the mileage, rendering a new energy balance: half gasoline, half water. Very little water is used, in an economy car it's around 2700 miles per gallon of distilled water, together with 4-6 teaspoons of household baking soda as catalyst. We have demonstrated many times that the fuel consumption of a 4-stroke generator can also be cut in half with our technology.

Not all cars, loads and driving conditions will gain the same, obviously. For ethical reasons we do not build up expectations for more than 10%-50% improvement in fuel economy, however we are getting daily success stories from experimenters who are seeing gains of 80%-100% in various vehicles. For some, significant economy gains inflict a revelation that something can be done about it, while for others it's a life changing factor.

We sell books that teach EVERYTHING about the technology and how to manufacture it, as well as sponsoring a free marketplace where sellers and buyers of actual systems can find each other and trade without interference and without any fees paid to us. Like in the Golden Age of Greece - no police, very little government.

At the time of writing we have more than 3200 satisfied customers, over 400 registered independent manufacturers/installers, and an unknown number of affiliates promoting us all over the world. 85%-90% of our sales occur via affiliates, and more are joining due to the generous 50% commission rate and the skyrocketing popularity of the product and the technology.

All in all, Water4Gas has become a buzzword for practicality and affordability. Our policy is to guide the readers toward a mindset of an experimenter rather than a driver that takes things for granted. We teach them that something can be done about gas prices, pollution and global warming, and they gladly take an active role and help to spread the word.

At the time of writing the technology is only for gasoline and diesel cars and trucks. However many of our experimenters are working on adaptations to propane/LPG/CNG propelled vehicles, as well as boats and other applications such as stationary generators.

We're getting daily requests from business people around the world, as well as inventors inspired by our success, requesting that we work with them to advance their goals and purposes. We help as much as we can, including bridging the gap between investors and inventors, as well as between inventors/developers seeking to complement their technologies with supporting ones (such as a bridge we've created between an English fuel cell and an American pure-hydrogen generator).

Thus Water4Gas has emerged and evolved in one year from a small home-based business to become a global junction for waterfuel technologies, inspiration and leadership.

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TECHNICAL

If it's so good, why haven't I heard about it?

You're hearing about it now! Waterfuel technology has been around since...you'll find it hard to believe...the year 1800! The first internal combustion engines ran on Hydrogen (made from water) for the first 8 years until they "invented" gasoline. Our own design is based on old-old U.S. patents from 1884 and 1918. Amazing but true. This is not new!

Now Hydrogen is coming back. It's in fashion, everybody's talking about it - and 1000's are actually doing it! I mean doing it at home, not buying Hydrogen at the gas pump. Because buying Hydrogen at the pump pulls us all the way back to square one - being dependent on a monopoly for such a vital resource as transportation and home energy.

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How can I know if this is not a scam or hoax?
Can I see a demo in my city?

We don't have demo stations in every town. My car is available for demo in Los Angeles, see below. Maybe Bill Lang will have you see his car in Clearwater, Florida. Other experimenters, for the most part, would like their privacy kept.

However my philosophy is clearly stated - allow me to be the last man on Earth to try and convince you.  If you're skeptical do an experiment:

  1. Order the books,

  2. Look inside, and preferably give it a try on a real car,

  3. Also you'll be able to contact individuals and companies who offer local or worldwide services and systems on the readers-only marketplace, and also check out the Water4Gas Forum, and see if there are local car demonstrations in your area,

  4. However if the stuff inside seems stupid, impractical or an outright hoax/scam, ClickBank.com (the book merchant) will refund your money within a couple business days - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

I'm taking all the risk on myself. For you it couldn't be safer than that, on the Internet or anywhere else. ClickBank itself will not scam you either - they have a HUGE operation with more than 10,000 publishers like myself, and a big reputation to keep (you can verify that via Google). And I cannot hide my statistics. I've seen some watchdog website for ClickBank affiliates where they can see how many refunds for any specific product, and whether its sales are dropping or rising. Professional affiliates have joined me AFTER verifying that there are exceptionally few refunds, and saw the stats soaring.

The public believes in this technology, and serious complaints were as low as 3 or 4 in 1000! Sounds too good, I expected many more. The way I communicate, I must have scared most of the negative people away before they even came on board. Good!
 
So you see, your risk is very minimal, basically your time to experiment for yourself. Putting together a complete system and installing it professionally may cost like $200 ($60 or less in bulk), however you can start with the basics (Electrolyzer or Vaporizer) for approximately $20 and see what kind of music it plays.

Demo

Demo of a real  Water-Hybrid Car  in Los Angeles!

* 4332 Alcove St., Los Angeles, California.
* Map and Driving Directions CLICK HERE
* Time: every SATURDAY 12:00--13:00 PM.

Can you tell me more about the technology?

Gladly! I will tell you everything I know - and more! I have written a pair of extensive books to answer most, if not all, of your questions about Water4Gas technology. These books are offered on our bookstore (click HOME at the bottom of this page). If after reading these books you still have questions, contact me via the contact page and I'll gladly answer it right away or research it for you.

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What about freezing cold weather?

Your options for freezing weather are:

  1. In the Water4Gas Electrolyzer (hydrogen generator) instead of distilled water use WASHER FLUID (not radiator anti-freeze; not gasoline anti-freeze either). I think it's enough to use a mixture of half WASHER FLUID (-20 degrees grade) and half distilled water. In this case the Electrolyze should be operated in "H2O mode" which means you pull out the fuse and you use it as a Vaporizer (water vapor injector). Otherwise the electrolysis process will change the washer fluid back to plain water.

  2. If you want to still be producing Hydrogen, leave the fuse on. In this case you will need to ADD A BIT OF washer fluid before you park the vehicle for the night. Just remove the little black cap and squirt some washer fluid into the Electrolyzer. Idea: a small pump connected to the washer fluid reservoir can do this for you with a push of a button.

  3. Optionally during winter use the "Charged Water System" (detailed instructions in a separate chapter of my book) which is a simple yet powerful system. In the charging process, charge a mixture of half WASHER FLUID and half tap water. As usual, add Hydrogen Peroxide as soon as the charging is done.

  4. battery-warmerI personally think this one is the best solution: Battery Warmers are being sold online for as little as $19.20. Battery Warmers from InfinitiPartsPeople.com or www.JCwhitney.com work on 110 volts, while Warming Pads from www.PadHeaters.com are good for 12 volts.

    cup warmerBoth types above take little energy (about 60 Watts) so you can keep it on all night. You may also wrap the device and the warmer with Mylar® or aluminum foil to minimize heat loss. Disconnect the warmer before driving, because the electrolyzer will keep itself warm when active.

    <<< Another option, starting as low as $0.99 on eBay, is to place a Coffee Mug Warmer under the electrolyzer. Optionally wrap it with Mylar®, aluminum foil or some other type of insulating blanket. Search eBay for "coffee mug warmer", it will bring up many offers. Choose one, cut off the USB plug and connect it to a cigarette lighter plug (your best choice of connection so you don't have to open the hood in order to switch it on and off). I've found such a plug with an inline fuse and a long cord for $1.29 on eBay, and you can also find it at your autoparts shop for about $2.

  5. One solution that you may like is to put quick-connect plugs on both the electrical connection and the hose connections. Before you leave the vehicle for any extended period of time (more than 30 minutes), pop up the hood and the the device indoors. By the way, only with Water4Gas technology you can do this safely, since we do not use any strong acids or any other hazardous chemicals. With distilled water and Baking Soda, you can safely carry the electrolyzer into the home or office.

Would it still run my engine if I ran out of fuel?

You wish! I wish so too. But it is not practical. Let me stress again what is already said on the homepage: Brown's gas (HHO or Hydroxy, Hydrogen-Oxygen) is supplemental to gasoline. Not independently. You do not switch to water, the water and its Hydrogen-Oxygen products are used as a boost or "catalyst" for better combustion of gasoline. Not by itself.

What further modifications would I have to make to run my car completely on water?

All I can tell you is this: there are less than a handful of people still walking around, who know how to do that. Anyone who even gets near finds himself bought out, threatened or killed. Water4Gas technology is obviously not there because we're not hiding, yet still walking... I guess they'd leave us alone, and leave you alone too!

What's wrong with improving gas economy by 25%-50% for a while, at least until the smoke clears on water cars? Patience is golden.

Is this good for diesel?


ABSOLUTELY YES. As far as I have leaned so far, diesels LOVE Hydrogen and HHO. Two test cars in California and Israel got about 40% and I believe much more is possible.

Basically very simple to install - ignore the turbo (if you have one) and forget about the fuel injection - just hook up the Electrolyzer to the air intake (air filter) and you're good to go.

As far as I know veggie oil diesel conversions may enjoy from Water4Gas technology as well. Actually that's going to be my next vehicle: a converted Volkswagen Jetta TDI (that's a diesel model) or a converted Mercedes Benz diesel. I'm going to test both Hydrogen-Oxygen (HHO) and pure Hydrogen, and publish the results in an upcoming chapter (free for all existing readers). From the knowledge we have gained so far, both will be very beneficial.

The nice aspect about diesels is how EASY it is to gain more mileage. My understanding is this: since there is no computerized timing control, the fast-ignited Hydrogen will not have to "argue" with a stupid computer, but will rather ignite when and where it is best.

Would this technology work on my natural gas vehicle?

The following answer has been posted on our forum by James G:

You've got a great engine to work with for burning dedicated HHO. A potential problem with converting gas engines is the affect of oxygen on the valves and rings, especially if the car is not driven regularly. You've already got the Stainless steel rings and valves, and probably ceramic piston heads. Also the car is already rigged to run on a gaseous, hyper-clean burning, fuel. The computer probably won't be giving you the kind of problems a gasoline ejected car has. Also, your timing is set better to burn this type of fuel. (Spark firing after top-dead-center.)

Adding HHO to natural gas should be fairly straight-forward, just hook it up to the vacuum intake like any other car. I would presume you'd see an almost immediate increase.

But with that car it would be interesting to explore a dual fuel possibility with a dedicated HHO option. You'd just need another pressure regulator and sufficient HHO fuel supply source.

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I heard that hydrogen burns very hot and can cause damage to engines with aluminum heads. Is this a possibility?

We are using a SMALL amount of Hydrogen, compared to Hydrogen cars. We don't drive on Hydrogen - we're only interested in Hydrogen for the purpose of boosting your poorly burning gasoline. Those small amounts of Hydrogen (more correctly Brown's gas) and water vapor COOL DOWN the engine and cause other effects such as less vibration, steam-cleaning old carbon deposits, etc.

The overall effect, in the long run, is less maintenance, less breakdowns, not more. Most people are interested in saving right now at the gas pump, and that is understandable, however if they want it or not the benefits of less pollution and less maintenance are there to enjoy as well.

Can you tell me exactly how much I can save?

No. I will not even estimate. All I can promise you is zero to start with, and you are totally responsible for the rest. And should be happy with what YOUR CAR can achieve. Don't take it bad, let me explain:

Our technology works. You can read the testimonials. Many people have saved 50% and beyond. You can visit me in Hollywood and see my car in action. However, this cannot be turned into a PROMISE or a guarantee of any kind. No gains, or very little gain, can be achieved IF:

  1. The vehicle has been "chipped" or otherwise modified to high performance, or

  2. There is something else wrong with the vehicle, mechanically or electrically. The vehicle must be in good shape!

As far as I know, and I may be wrong, the best models for BETTER fuel economy are those that are already good on economy as well as diesels and carburated vehicles. Gas hungry vehicles such as giant SUV's are NOT geared for economy, although we can still improve them. If you can afford to choose, go for the more economical vehicle or truck that fits your needs.

Is this technology dangerous?

Very dangerous - if you do stupid things! Hydrogen, any system using hydrogen as fuel, is not a toy! I've had people trying to ignite the hydrogen for fun...oh boy!!! They just wanted to see if it would ignite... Of course it will, dummies! Hydrogen ignites if you put a match to it, and then its flame runs at 3.5 Mach! Nothing you want chasing after you, man.

Throughout the books I have placed more than enough precaution notes, for every area that may harm you or damage the vehicle. Even when it came to toxic glues, I placed prominent warnings that you just cannot miss.

That said, Hydrogen-On-Demand technology is NOT more dangerous than the usual automotive technologies involving fuel, cooling, etc. For instance we all know that the radiator is essential to cool down the engine, and without it the car will go up in smoke. However if you open the radiator cap when hot, you're going to get hurt, is that right? The danger is not in the radiator, the danger is in ignorance and carelessness. There are safety rules and they are quite simple, but you have to know them and apply them.

If you follow the rules AS I HAVE WRITTEN THEM FOR YOU, you should not be harmed. I demonstrate my system to people almost every day and it is totally safe because I follow the rules. I never had a fire, explosion or meltdown. Follow my footsteps for maximum safety!

Let me give you a real example: in the installation chapter you will see that you MUST keep the output hose at least 4 feet long, to prevent fire hazard. Don't cut it short even if the device is closer than 4 ft. Maybe this "wastes" a dollar or two, but saves a lot of trouble! Every such precaution is highlighted in the book so you cannot miss them.

In general: Hydrogen-On-Demand means that we are not storing Hydrogen! In normal operation we're using all the Hydrogen that we're producing, immediately. There is no Hydrogen storage tank to explode in case of an accident. MUCH SAFER THAN HYDROGEN CARS OR PROPANE/NATURAL GAS VEHICLES in my humble opinion.

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Isn't it dangerous to use glass jars?

No danger that I know of. I have never seen any of the glass jars crack or break. One Friday afternoon I was cleaning my 6 jars from the Toyota. All 6 jars were already cleaned thus almost invisible, standing in line at the curb. My neighbor didn't see them and backed her car right on top of them. They were thrown to the road with great noise. I thought to myself: "Now THIS is damage!"

But when I picked the jars up from under her wheels, none of them was cracked, chipped or damaged in any way! Not a scratch!

However if you are concerned about using glass, a VERY durable plastic substitute is provided in the book. Not a cookie jar or any other food container - do not use those because I have seen them melt in less than 10 minutes of operation.

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Will this technology fit my car?

I have to be frank with you - even if I lose you for somebody else who promises the moon. As I said this technology is experimental. Nobody has a central brain with data on all cars and models, in order to calculate or predict for you what the technology will do in your vehicle.

Besides, there are unknown factors such as weather and altitude, the mechanical and electrical condition of the vehicle, and any modifications that have been done to it, sometimes without your knowledge. I've seen differences between the same Toyota in East US compared to the same Toyota in California, due to emissions regulations. So even if the car is new, it may have gone through modifications you're not aware of.

I prefer that you lower your expectations for several reasons:

  1. I don't want you to come to me with "Hey Ozzie, you promised me 50% better economy!" - I never promised such a thing. Some people take the best result we've achieved, and expect ALL of it, immediately. See the testimonials? Some people are happy with 12.5% better fuel economy. Some get more than 100%. That's an eight times difference! So when somebody says "If it's at least half as good as you said, it's worth it", then I say "half of what?" - Half of 12.5%? - Half of 100%?

  2. The second reason is that I want you to understand and accept that the knowledge that you will be given here is experimental. This is very important to understand. We keep NO secrets from you whatsoever. Everything that has made my car go 61 MPG will be revealed to you. However YOU HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and be the experimenter. When you take the responsibility, or in other words YOU assume the viewpoint that YOU are in charge, not me or the inventor or anybody else, you will have a much greater chance of getting results. Good results indeed. That's how I did it.

  3. Some lucky bastards get all the economy in the world on their first day of using Water4Gas technology. I had to go through a lot of sweat and fine tuning to get good results in my cars, and some more fine tuning to get fabulous results. You may fall into any of these extreme categories, or more likely in the middle because I have paved the road before you.

Typically how far will one quart of water go before you change the water?

In my car the quart jar is enough for 900-1000 miles. My neighbor drives at least 6-8 weeks before she needs to fill out more water.

Another thing you will learn about in the books is the "multi-cell" arrangement. I have driven with it 4 whole months and only 20 or 25 percent of the water got used up. I washed it all out and put fresh water and everything, but I could have probably driven 6-8 months WITHOUT EVER TOUCHING the system. This starts to look more like standard automotive maintenance, doesn't it?

Can you expand you system to using 2 quart containers with water? Will it hurt the system?

You can expand to 2 quart-jars or more. I tried 6 in my car and they went 4 months without service (not even filling up water). They gave better mileage and I can see no damage. On the contrary - this arrangement stayed cool and seems to have less problems since each "cell" works less hard.

If you mean you want to use one large 2-quart (2 liter) container, this can be done. It will work well. However in my experience it would be easier to make, easier to install, and more economical to make two or more SMALL cells, and connect them IN SERIES as explained in the book. An arrangement of several smaller cells will give out more Hydrogen than one large container, and my book explains why and how.

The steel spirals in the water - are they easily purchased locally?

  • The "Cathode" (the wire connected to minus 12 Volt) is made of stainless steel grade 302/304 that can be locally obtained from marine stores and hardware stores.

  • The "Anode" (wire connected to PLUS 12 Volt) is made of stainless steel grade 316L that can be obtained from several sources that specialize in metals (given in the book). It is easy to obtain once you know who to ask, and we will tell you our sources. They are in the USA, and if you are elsewhere in the world you can find 316L on the internet or at your local metal supply, they will know what you're talking about when you say this "code".

Is this technology fit for welding?

No! And I'd rather you don't ask "how then?" The answer is No! Don't kill yourself.

If you're looking for PROFESSIONALLY BUILT welding machines that use HHO, search the Internet and you will find them. They go for many $1000's and require specialized knowledge and tooling. Welding equipment is not a do it yourself project.

Is this technology fit for generators? Scooters?

Mixed answer here. It can be fitted to use on generators, lawn mowers, scooters, etc., however modifications are necessary. I've heard of people doing it but I suggest that you do your homework before going there. Surely this is NOT included in the scope of the knowledge offered here. We deal with cars and trucks.

The main problem, especially with simple motors and two strokes, is that a spark can jump from the engine back into the Electrolyzer ("Hydrogen generator") and ignite whatever amount of hydrogen is there at the time. It is usually enough to explode the device. To prevent this from happening you MUST use a device called flashback arrestor, that may be obtained from welding supplies.

However I have no personal experience in that regard. I intend to test this area and publish a new chapter with EXACT technology and instructions for generators.

What's the difference between HHO (Brown's Gas/Hydroxy) and Hydrogen?

HHO contains one part of Oxygen (as well as two parts of Hydrogen of course), in contrast to pure hydrogen. HHO is significantly more combustible than hydrogen, thanks to the oxygen. Pure hydrogen has its benefits, but is expensive to make. That's the charm of HHO - it's easy and economical to make.

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Is this technology fit for tractors and farm equipment?
Is it any good for boats?

Why not? In theory, any engine that is similar to a car's engine would love some Hydrogen for better combustion. That said, I must tell you that THIS particular Hydrogen generating system has not been tested on boats yet. However tractors and LARGE farm equipment are similar to cars and trucks so there shouldn't be a problem.

The difference in boats is that they operate in FULL THROTTLE most of the driving time. That means that the amount of HHO will never be too much, the engine will need it all, constantly. That's a hard thing because you'll need lots of HHO (which is possible with Water4GasMulti-Cell design), but on the other hand it's easy because you'll be able to predict how much you need in normal operation.


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INSTALLATION

Where can I find somebody to install this system for me?

Installation to your vehicle can be EASILY done by any good mechanic, or by yourself. Mechanics, we have found out, like the idea and respond well once they see the installation chapter - just print the relevant pages and bring it to them.

After ordering you will have access to our readers-only marketplace, where professional installers (as well as systems manufacturers) offer local installation services. The marketplace is small at the time of writing, but is growing fast.

How do I install this system in my vehicle, model xxxxxx?

As said above, installation is pretty simple in most vehicles. Space requirements are 8" height on a 3.7"x3.7" base, for the Electrolyzer ("Hydrogen generator" or more correctly HHO or Brown's gas generator). The other parts are small and will fit almost anywhere.

More specific data on installations in ALL vehicles will take years to collect, experience bit by experience bit. We don't have any such database to share, otherwise I'd gladly do so. This industry is young and the number of car models is mind boggling. However it won't take too long for a professional mechanic or even an amateur mechanic to get the idea, when you read the installation chapters in my books. Each sub systems, such as the Electrolyzer or Fuel Heater, has a stand-alone installation chapter, allowing you to do the installation in a series of smaller, easier projects.

If you intend to install for others - ATTENTION TO THIS WILL SAVE YOU MUCH TROUBLE - I have given several "survival tips" in the manufacturer's information package to save you from trouble. All my experience is there as much as I could document it.

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BILLING/DELIVERY

Where are my books? When will I receive my copy?

The books haven't arrived because we deliver them by email only, as stated very clearly on OUR home page www.Water4Gas.com. As stated on the website, these are download-only books, or in other words electronic books (eBooks or e-books).

If you recall at the time of order you were not asked for a shipping address, right? That's not a computer bug, there was a good reason for that.

Our books are electronic books and are downloaded via the internet. I'm sorry we cannot offer printed books since we never had even one of them printed out  - they keep evolving and updating, it would cost a fortune to print a new set every few days.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. We get this question every week but we've done everything in our power to make it clear that this is a digital product. The merchant, ClickBank.com, deals exclusively with digital products. If there is absolutely no way that you can download our publications then please email your receipt to Refunds@ClickBank.com and have your order refunded.

You were supposed to be automatically directed to the download page, which also includes instructions and bonuses. If you didn't get that page for any reason, or have lost it, email us with your name and order number and we will email you back the download page.

I Cannot order books from your web site!

Try a different browser, such as Firefox.

Usually this is a local problem. Try ordering from work, a cafe' or a friend's computer. Don't forget to write down the order number! (you'll need it to get tech support). Then email or call me WITH YOUR ORDER NUMBER, and I'll give you a download link that you can use at home. This has worked for several customers who had a similar problem.

Call me if you need further assistance. I keep my line open and if I'm not there it's only because I'm busy answering another call (sometimes 5 of them come simultaneously from around the world), just leave a message and I'll get back with you (USA/Canada). If you're calling from another country, please call again later.

I lost the download page!
or: I have the download link but cannot access the downloads!

click to enlargeNo worry. Email us WITH YOUR ORDER NUMBER, and we'll give you the download page. When you get the download page by email, sometimes its not clickable in the email, in which case you need to copy and paste it into your browser - see this picture for clarification. The same instruction also applies if we give it to you by phone, fax or regular mail. Or if you have written it on paper and want to go back for more downloads.

IMPORTANT: you must paste or type the download link in the address line, not in the search line. That's important because if you try to paste it into the search line in Google, or Yahoo, or AOL etc, the search engine will NOT find the page. Why? Simply because we're hiding this page from the search engines, to reserve it for paid readers only.

Can I get my money back?

That's easy! Just email your receipt to Refunds@ClickBank.com and they will refund your money quickly and in full. No questions asked. I think it normally takes a couple of business days to get the refund, although they're saying it may take up to 5 days.

COSTS & ORDERING SYSTEMS

I am interested in buying the whole system, so that I can get it installed in my car.

Systems are available too! When you order the books, you also receive instant access to our Free Marketplace, where you can shop around between several offers. Some as low as $99 and some offer free shipping worldwide.

The reason the book purchase is required: the books are VITAL - we found out that owning a system in a box is not enough to get results - which would give our technology a bad name.

I don’t want you to be frustrated with your system. I want you to have all the benefits it can give you, so you can be very happy with it. You need the education in the books and that's why we have bundled them together with the Marketplace access. However the Marketplace is a free service to our readers. To keep prices down and enable fast growth, we do NOT take any fees from buyers OR sellers in the Marketplace.

With this arrangement, you can enjoy both the comfort of shopping between many offers and finding the one that's best for you, as well as enjoying the full benefits of our technology.

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How much do the system parts cost?

Good question. You can build the Electrolyzer (  "Hydrogen generator") for under $20. The complete system with ALL the parts shown on the website should still be very affordable, between $60 and $100.

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How much should it cost to install?

Installation depends very much on the vehicle and the hourly rate of your mechanic. However I can estimate your installation cost between $20 (in some countries) and up to $100 (USA, Canada). Your mechanic, once he sees the installation instructions from the book (print the relevant pages and show it to him), will see how simple it is to install, and in most cases will quote you for one hour of labor. Installation hardware (plastic connectors, bungee cords, etc.) should be less than $5.

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Do you have a site to order some items from if a person can't find them locally?

Yes we do!! On the download page you will find a link to a special readers-only marketplace where you can get systems for real cheap. Some of them will sell parts (I think so but I don't control their policy), some will only sell systems. In any case contact them directly.

I believe that ANY part of the Water4Gas system can be obtained locally. You just need to understand what the part does, and you will find the local equivalent. For instance many of the hoses can be replaced with similar items, but some are critical for safety and durability. If you're not sure what is critical and what not (by reading the relevant chapter in the books), contact our support line and we'll gladly guide you.

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Where is my Membership Kit? Is the kit part of the initial payment?

The kits are not part of the books deal. Never were (see clarification note). However the new readers-only marketplace is evolving pretty fast to answer the demand for actual systems or kits. One US merchant that was added last night offers a system for $99, special for us only. That's much better than the systems I was selling for $497 until recently.

To make it even easier to get your hands on a real Water4Gas system, I am now giving away my manufacturing data to anybody who wishes to go into business. Free of charge (see link at bottom of this website). At the time of writing 70 business individuals and automotive companies have taken my offer (well it is hard to resist at $0...) and are preparing themselves for delivery. This creates a fast growing marketplace where you can shop around for the best combination of quality, price and local availability.

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Best wishes!
Ozzie Freedom


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